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KSF{Kodies} · Senior Member

4yr old Shoots Babysitter

CharlieBurling · Veteran Member

Should have had the guns locked up in a gun cabinet.

natamakove · Veteran Member

i think the guns are supposed to be on some kind of safety lock devices.
the kid probably watched too much movies and tv shows.

krea · Senior Member

i watched this story on the news this morning. i cant believe a four year old knew how to load the gun and everything. kids are so sensitive to pain so he wanted to hurt the person back i guess. what do the parents think? id like to know. the parents couldve hid the gun and put it where a child cant get ahold of it. ...irresponsible people...

patrickisoverrated · Senior Member

How does a four year old handle a shotgun?
I would imagine that kid hurts pretty badly.

Zach_V · Senior Member

The parents should get in trouble for having a shotgun so readily availible for a four year old to get. I'm also surprised that a four year old could handle a shotgun. I wonder if it was already loaded, or did he load it himself?

LauraHernandez17 · Senior Member

uh the parents should be held responsible DUUUH
but how would the 4 yr old even know where the gun is

alliestoom · Senior Member

how did he even get the gun? why would his parents put it in a place where a FOUR year old could get it? i mean, they arent even that tall.

whhhhhhhhhhhhat is going on. that boy is probably autistic or something :/

cupcakeshauna · Veteran Member

Umm ya the gun should have definitely been put somewhere safer....

Flanny · Senior Member

i don't think that when you have small children you should have shotguns laying around the house, i personally believe thats just a matter of bad parenting.

Scottster · Senior Member

i think its the kids fault for not getting in a clean shot, when i was four i was pickin' off clay pidgeons in my backyard!

-- Edited by Scottster at 18:44, 2009-01-06

kb · Senior Member

4 years old...? There has to be something wrong. They should look into the family!

sophie · Veteran Member

four year old...wwwwwwowwwwww...i was really shocked when i saw this title.
i think guns should be limited. i still remembered how i felt when i heard gun shoots this new year's eve...that was horrible, literally, that was creepy!

KSF{Kodies} · Senior Member

to clarify, the article doesnt mention anything about any type of mental disability in the boy, just anger

-- Edited by KSF{Kodies} at 19:03, 2009-01-06

jessmontano · Veteran Member

the gun should not be accessible to just anyone in the house hold.
i also think that not just anyone should be able to get guns because
not everyone is responsible enough to have one. people get careless.

&& to say he is autistic is not the right statement because although autism
is pretty common, the article did not mention the child having autism and he did not have characteristics of autism.

-- Edited by jessmontano at 18:57, 2009-01-06

rtheisen · Senior Member

Why was the gun so easy for get? and how did he know where to find it? The parents are responsible for the incident in my opinion.

cstair23 · Senior Member

i think guns are a necessary evil in certain circumstances
if you live in a bad neighborhood for example

but no matter the circumstance if you own a firearm it should be put on safety, unloaded, and locked up

like i said earlier this year
my grandfather was a freak about guns

but he was always put safety first
for example he always had the weapons disassembled in a type of locked cabinet that he made specifically for guns

the in side was lined with foam locked with a 5 digit combination and steel plated

my grandfather was also incredibly overprotective of his weapons

and allie that autism reference was really offensive
did you even read the article?

Matt. mhm · Veteran Member

like the comments above, how can a 4 year old even handle a gun, without severly hurting himself? This story is crazy, but i think the little boy has not a clue what he did, but someone should definetly show the child wrong from right. It sound like im giving this kid a slap on the wrist, but he is only 4 years old, and i think the parents should be accountable.

krea · Senior Member

on the news this morning they said "the boy went to the backroom, loaded the gun, and came out"

he loaded it himself

YOitsjvo · Veteran Member

guns should be held in a safe place.

where kids cant get to them

and how does a 4 year old know how to handle a gun anyways?!

Zach_V · Senior Member

Owning a firearm inherits certain responsibilities. They should be kept in a locked cabintet/safe and should be unloaded when at home. We keep our guns in a 800 pound safe and my dad and I are the only ones with the combination.

KSF{Kodies} · Senior Member

i agree with chris that guns are a necessary evil in society. with that said there are many responsibilities that come along with that, one of which is keeping the gun safely kept

alliestoom · Senior Member

cstair23 wrote:

i think guns are a necessary evil in certain circumstances
if you live in a bad neighborhood for example

but no matter the circumstance if you own a firearm it should be put on safety, unloaded, and locked up

like i said earlier this year
my grandfather was a freak about guns

but he was always put safety first
for example he always had the weapons disassembled in a type of locked cabinet that he made specifically for guns

the in side was lined with foam locked with a 5 digit combination and steel plated

my grandfather was also incredibly overprotective of his weapons

and allie that autism reference was really offensive
did you even read the article?

not trying to be offensive. and yeah, actually i did. it didn't say much more than was originally posted. the reason i said this is becuase usually children who are autistic or have some other sort of disability whether learning or developmental have a tendency to act out in violent and irrational ways. im not stupid or just saying it to be like "YEAH HES PROBABLY RETARTED OR SOMETHING LOLLL," (yeah i know that wasn't so nice, but im trying to prove my point) i know what im talking about. my mom deals with learning disabled and autistic children everyday and tells stories about these kinds of things.

thanks.

nicholeoli · Veteran Member

a four year old should not no where a gun is, and should not no how to use one! he should be charged, thats messed up even though he is four and being a babysitter myself thats scary!

meganrizzo · Veteran Member

-guns should be allowed
-they should not be accessible to everyone in the household
-they should be locked up

ginagaunt! · Veteran Member

the gun was so easily accessed.. thats sad and ridiulous.. wow
but guns should be allowed with the proper licence and what not
and theyre should be certain regulations that come with that such as where the weapons are kept and if theyre loaded and all the safty features as well..

Codenamelivi · Veteran Member

thats rediculous that the kid even knew how to handle it... and was it already loaded?

-stuart denton

patrickisoverrated · Senior Member

alliestoom wrote:

cstair23 wrote:

i think guns are a necessary evil in certain circumstances
if you live in a bad neighborhood for example

but no matter the circumstance if you own a firearm it should be put on safety, unloaded, and locked up

like i said earlier this year
my grandfather was a freak about guns

but he was always put safety first
for example he always had the weapons disassembled in a type of locked cabinet that he made specifically for guns

the in side was lined with foam locked with a 5 digit combination and steel plated

my grandfather was also incredibly overprotective of his weapons

and allie that autism reference was really offensive
did you even read the article?

not trying to be offensive. and yeah, actually i did. it didn't say much more than was originally posted. the reason i said this is becuase usually children who are autistic or have some other sort of disability whether learning or developmental have a tendency to act out in violent and irrational ways. im not stupid or just saying it to be like "YEAH HES PROBABLY RETARTED OR SOMETHING LOLLL," (yeah i know that wasn't so nice, but im trying to prove my point) i know what im talking about. my mom deals with learning disabled and autistic children everyday and tells stories about these kinds of things.

thanks.

I think the point that Chris was trying to make is that since the article says nothing about the child being autistic, then it is unfair to assume that he had autism since that would be a pretty big issue in a case such as this.

Also, people with autism are not only traditionally shy, but are easily disturbed by loud noises, and I don't think that the noise of firing a shotgun would be exactly what a person affected with autism would be looking for.

I think that maybe the kid was just angry.

drewtekulve · Senior Member

Most children do go through temper problems in their youth. All too often they get frustrated over small issues, and in some unfortunate cases, they act in violence, sometimes mimicking what they have seen on TV.

There was this one time where my brother (who was a youngster at the time) ran around the house with a knife threatening my sister, supposedly inspired by Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. By the sounds of this, it sounds hilarious, but it really was a dangerous situation.

So was it my parents fault? Unintentionally it could have been. What did they do afterwards? They banned TMNT from our house and made sure our kitchen knives were hidden. A pretty redeeming act, I'll say.

So in the end, I was deprived of TMNT in my childhood, only to realize that i was protected from the brain-washing processes of TMNT by my parents.

So moral of the story, don't go crazy over Pizza Time.

Anywho, How did the lady only escape with minor injuries?

-- Edited by drewtekulve at 19:09, 2009-01-07

KirstenHarms · Veteran Member

does the 4 year old know that it's wrong to shoot people?

coolkidchaney · Veteran Member

usually you don't load a gun and just leave it there for your 4 year old to grab a hold of it.

KIDS do the darnest things!

Matt. mhm · Veteran Member

^Real cute avatar jourdan. =P

-- Edited by Matt. mhm at 18:31, 2009-01-08

patrickisoverrated · Senior Member

^^Agreed

coolkidchaney · Veteran Member

Jealous much?

adrianna_mrozek · Veteran Member

The gun should have been locked away somewhere a 4 year old couldn't get to it. I think the parents should get some sort of punishment for just letting a gun lay around like that so that the 4 year old could shoot the babysitter. pretty sad though....

KSF{Kodies} · Senior Member

only question i have is how irresponsible do you have to be to leave a gun where a four year old could access it?

fabulous_erin · Veteran Member

first i think that kid needs to seriously be check out psychologically. if he runs to a gun because someone stepped on his foot then theres something wrong with him and possibily how the parents are raising him. ithink his parents should also be held responsible because they didn't lock up the gun away from the four-year-old.

fabulous_erin · Veteran Member

alliestoom wrote:

cstair23 wrote:

i think guns are a necessary evil in certain circumstances
if you live in a bad neighborhood for example

but no matter the circumstance if you own a firearm it should be put on safety, unloaded, and locked up

like i said earlier this year
my grandfather was a freak about guns

but he was always put safety first
for example he always had the weapons disassembled in a type of locked cabinet that he made specifically for guns

the in side was lined with foam locked with a 5 digit combination and steel plated

my grandfather was also incredibly overprotective of his weapons

and allie that autism reference was really offensive
did you even read the article?

not trying to be offensive. and yeah, actually i did. it didn't say much more than was originally posted. the reason i said this is becuase usually children who are autistic or have some other sort of disability whether learning or developmental have a tendency to act out in violent and irrational ways. im not stupid or just saying it to be like "YEAH HES PROBABLY RETARTED OR SOMETHING LOLLL," (yeah i know that wasn't so nice, but im trying to prove my point) i know what im talking about. my mom deals with learning disabled and autistic children everyday and tells stories about these kinds of things.

thanks.

u are right that he may have autism.....mybrother has autism so i know a thing or two.....but there are different psychological disorders that he could have or he could just be a 4-year old with a temper.

KSF{Kodies} · Senior Member

in respones to all the talk of mental disabilities, i think in a case this large, that if the child had some sort of disorder, then it would be known, that isnt something they would keep hidden, i believe the kid just had a temper and went off in rage. lots of kids have anger issues since they do not yet understand how to vent, so the pent up until they cant anymore.

davidtvelasco · Veteran Member

I think this is negligence on the parents part. The gun should have been locked, and shouldn't have been loaded. Not only is this the law, but it's just common sense.

Luis777 · Senior Member

i think people have the right to have guns around the house for there protection but they should never be loaded and should be in secure places so children cant get there hands on it

ghan28 · Veteran Member

Myabe the kid thought it was a toy gun. Could it also have been the media that influenced him? Maybe he saw somewhere on tv that you should respond by shooting someone when soembody steps on your foot.

Bam · Senior Member

Thats crazy! why does a child know where to find a shotgun?