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ANNUAL AMERICAN DEATHS CAUSED BY DRUGS


ANNUAL AMERICAN DEATHS CAUSED BY DRUGS

TOBACCO ........................ 400,000
ALCOHOL ........................ 100,000
ALL LEGAL DRUGS .............20,000
ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS ..........15,000
CAFFEINE .........................2,000
ASPIRIN ...........................500
MARIJUANA ...................... 0
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Source: United States government...
National Institute on Drug Abuse,
Bureau of Mortality Statistics



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Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

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wah wah. people are going to try and use this as proof that MJ should be legalized. But just people smoking too much of it cant really kill you doesnt mean that it is harmless. All of the other things on this list are harmful no matter how many people are killed by it.

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I agree with vannessa, it matters how many people die because of these drugs.. but it also matters on how many people are affected by drugs, and im not talking about just the druggie, im talking bout the friends and family.. Its not very fun to see a family member or a friend crash and burn due to drugs.

-- Edited by Sandy at 18:53, 2009-02-27

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see this is exactly what i was talkng about the US government allows the sale of of other substances that kill hundreds of thousands of people every year, but i guess marijuana is still worse than every other drug. i mean look at this aspirin kills more people a year than marijuana!!!!!

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Ya because people OD! I mean water can kill you.... common
Too much of anything can be harmful

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What about the people who get hurt because they were'nt exactly paying attention on earth, if you know what i mean? An OD on THC is almost impossible, but youre not going to be as mentally fit as a sober person while say, driving a car?

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Thank you Kody :]
That is exactly what i was trying to get across.

LEGALIZE.

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IT IS IMPOSSILBE TO OD ON MARIJUANA

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Well BrianaV, if you think education pays a price, try ignorance.
Being educated includes being sober and realizing why marijuana is illegal.

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I can see how this would make a good case in legalizing marijuana although I agree with Vanessa and Sandy that there are important factors that these statistics don't cover.

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http://www.usnews.com/blogs/heart-to-heart/2009/02/04/legalize-marijuana-obama-was-right-to-say-no.html

a good well written argument against legalization.

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but u cant OD on marijuana. and for u jeremy people get behind the wheel of cars when they r drunk all the time, i just delt with a drunk driver asking me for directions yesterday, so whats the difference between that and driving high?

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p.s. i never said people can OD on marijuana i was referring to the people dying from asprin...
and people SHOULDNT be driving drunk. just because they make a stupid choice to get behind the wheel while drunk doesnt justify for others doing it while high. people are going to do it whether its legal or not. people who want to smoke are going to do it whether the law permits it or not. Making it legal is only going to make people feel alright with doing it. The number of mj smokers isnt going to change either way...

-- Edited by Vanessabug at 19:01, 2009-02-27

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WELL I KNOW PLENTY PEOPLE WHO SMOKE MARIJAUNA AND THEIR GRADES ARE JUST FINE.
AS FOR THE WHOLE IGNORANT PART..... PLEASE.



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Third time I've talked about this, but ignorance pays a price.
Maybe I feel I've been using that word too much because everyone that thinks it should be legalized.

-- Edited by MrsCavalluzzi at 19:04, 2009-02-27

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You can overdose on tetrahydrocannibol, but you really have to try at it... like really hard. And the fact that there are drunk drivers does not justify their existence.

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I totally agree with Kevin!

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vanessa u just made my point for me if people are going to do it whether its legal or not then why shouldnt the government make some money off it.

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im with bree on this one.


and just so you know-----

ignorant /gnrnt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ig-ner-uhnt] Show IPA
adjective 1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
3. uninformed; unaware.
4. due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.




read the post.....it says mary-jane- o. thats information...read it and weep.

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Ya that was like saying, well Osama BinLaden planned the attacks and he killed a mass amount of people so genocide should be alright.... were just going to fine them per person they kill. thats ridiculous.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO IT EITHER WAY.
there should be no change in law. it should just be left alone.
it is what it is.

-- Edited by Vanessabug at 19:07, 2009-02-27

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BrianaV wrote:

Thank you Kody :]
That is exactly what i was trying to get across.

LEGALIZE.



Marijuana's Effects on the Brain

When marijuana is smoked, its active ingredient THC travels throughout the body, including the brain, to produce its many effects. THC attaches to sites called cannabinoid receptors on nerve cells in the brain, affecting the way those cells work. Cannabinoid receptors are abundant in parts of the brain that regulate movement, coordination, learning and memory, higher cognitive functions such as judgment, and pleasure

 

How does marijuana use affect physical health?

A study of 450 individuals found that people who smoke marijuana frequently but do not smoke tobacco have more health problems and miss more days of work than nonsmokers do. Many of the extra sick days used by the marijuana smokers in the study were for respiratory illnesses.

Even infrequent marijuana use can cause burning and stinging of the mouth and throat, often accompanied by a heavy cough. Someone who smokes marijuana regularly may have many of the same respiratory problems that tobacco smokers do, such as daily cough and phlegm production, more frequent acute chest illnesses, a heightened risk of lung infections, and a greater tendency toward obstructed airways.

Cancer of the respiratory tract and lungs may also be promoted by marijuana smoke. A study comparing 173 cancer patients and 176 healthy individuals produced strong evidence that smoking marijuana increases the likelihood of developing cancer of the head or neck, and that the more marijuana smoked, the greater the increase. A statistical analysis of the data suggested that marijuana smoking doubled or tripled the risk of these cancers.


How does marijuana use affect school, work, and social life?

Students who smoke marijuana get lower grades and are less likely to graduate from high school, compared with their nonsmoking peers. In one study, researchers compared marijuana smoking and nonsmoking 12th-graders' scores on standardized tests of verbal and mathematical skills. Although all of the students had scored equally well in 4th grade, the smokers' scores were significantly lower in 12th grade than the nonsmokers' scores were.

Workers who smoke marijuana are more likely than their co-workers to have problems on the job. Several studies have associated workers' marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers' compensation claims, and job turnover. A study among municipal workers found that employees who smoked marijuana on or off the job reported more "withdrawal behaviors" - such as leaving work without permission, daydreaming, spending work time on personal matters, and shirking tasks - that adversely affect productivity and morale.

Depression, anxiety, and personality disturbances are all associated with marijuana use. Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana use has the potential to cause problems in daily life or make a person's existing problems worse. Because marijuana compromises the ability to learn and remember information, the more a person uses marijuana the more he or she is likely to fall behind in accumulating intellectual, job, or social skills. Moreover, research has shown that marijuana's adverse impact on memory and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off.

For example, a study of 129 college students found that among heavy users of marijuana, those who smoked the drug at least 27 of the preceding 30 days, critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning were significantly impaired, even after they had not used the drug for at least 24 hours. The heavy marijuana users in the study had more trouble sustaining and shifting their attention and in registering, organizing, and using information than did the study participants who had used marijuana no more than 3 of the previous 30 days. As a result, someone who smokes marijuana once daily may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level all of the time. More recently, the same researchers showed that a group of long-term heavy marijuana users' ability to recall words from a list was impaired 1 week following cessation of marijuana use, but returned to normal by 4 weeks. An implication of this finding is that even after long-term heavy marijuana use, if an individual quits marijuana use, some cognitive abilities may be recovered.

When has death ever been the only side effect of drugs?

ILLEGAL!

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Is marijuana use addictive?

Long-term marijuana use can lead to addiction for some people; that is, they use the drug compulsively even though it often interferes with family, school, work, and recreational activities. According to the 2001 National Household Survey on Drug Abuse, an estimated 5.6 million Americans age 12 or older reported problems with illicit drug use in the past year. Of these, 3.6 million met diagnostic criteria for dependence on an illicit drug. More than 2 million met diagnostic criteria for dependence on marijuana/hashish. In 1999, more than 220,000 people entering drug abuse treatment programs reported that marijuana was their primary drug of abuse.

Along with craving, withdrawal symptoms can make it hard for long-term marijuana smokers to stop using the drug. People trying to quit report irritability, difficulty sleeping, and anxiety. They also display increased aggression on psychological tests, peaking approximately 1 week after they last used the drug.



-- Edited by Bonemail-(Christophe K) at 19:07, 2009-02-27

-- Edited by Bonemail-(Christophe K) at 19:08, 2009-02-27

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KevinDangerMann wrote:

Well BrianaV, if you think education pays a price, try ignorance.
Being educated includes being sober and realizing why marijuana is illegal.









HAHAHAHAHHA KEVIN.

And to Briana, Just because something is legal doesn't mean people will use it responsibly. Maybe you should post stats on how many stupid things people do while their high.
Like post topics saying how Marijuana is good.


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Snackycakes wrote:

You can overdose on tetrahydrocannibol, but you really have to try at it... like really hard. And the fact that there are drunk drivers does not justify their existence.




This is wrong, you would need an IV drip (a needle into your veins) of THC to overdose.

RE: Chris

Yes marijuana has negative affects, so does alcohol and cigarettes (much worse ones actually) and those are legal. And yes you can get "addicted" to it in the same way you can get addicted to sex, TV or the internet. One more thing

PROHIBITION DOES NOT WORK

legalize and tax it



-- Edited by CharlieBurling at 02:04, 2009-02-28

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CharlieBurling wrote:

 

Snackycakes wrote:

You can overdose on tetrahydrocannibol, but you really have to try at it... like really hard. And the fact that there are drunk drivers does not justify their existence.




This is wrong, you would need an IV drip (a needle into your veins) of THC to overdose.

RE: Chris

Yes marijuana has negative affects, so does alcohol and cigarettes (much worse ones actually) and those are legal. And yes you can get "addicted" to it in the same way you can get addicted to sex, TV or the internet. One more thing

PROHIBITION DOES NOT WORK

legalize and tax it



-- Edited by CharlieBurling at 02:04, 2009-02-28

 




My father had addiction problems to both alcohol and cigerettes. He even died of cancer when I was in the sixth grade caused by his addictions. I wish they were illegal and I wish that prohibition did work. Fact is though just cause preventive measures don't work perfectly doesn't mean making another deadly and stupid drug legal is right. If you want to try to tell me just cause they get their hands on it it should be legal then lets just make herroine and crack legal. Same logic!

I know the effects of addiction on family life and on social life.

 



-- Edited by MrsCavalluzzi at 15:24, 2009-02-28

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Fact of the matter is marijuana is not physically addicting and not even comparable to crack or herion in terms of dangerousness. You can wish prohibition worked but history has proved otherwise. Prohibition was tried and failed in the 1920's with alcohol and is currently failing with marijuana.

Another very serious issue to consider is that it's agreed people will get their hands on it legal or not. However if it were legal the money would be going to the federal/state government. As of now it is funding a very violent and bloody gang war in Mexico where over 3,000 people have died last year.

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CharlieBurling wrote:

Fact of the matter is marijuana is not physically addicting and not even comparable to crack or herion in terms of dangerousness. You can wish prohibition worked but history has proved otherwise. Prohibition was tried and failed in the 1920's with alcohol and is currently failing with marijuana.

Another very serious issue to consider is that it's agreed people will get their hands on it legal or not. However if it were legal the money would be going to the federal/state government. As of now it is funding a very violent and bloody gang war in Mexico where over 3,000 people have died last year.




So your trying to say that people are not only making bad choices by using a drug that slows down brain activities and increase ricks of illnesses but now their habits are also fueling on criminals? If people stoppped smoking marijuana then wouldn't both problems go away?

1. If it's legalized it will be abused even more then it already is.

2. Alcohol is legal and it still gets into hands of underage people so even legalizing it has failed.

Fact of the matter is that people who want it will get it and the best thing to do is limit how much their is available and how many people want to get it. I also like how your ignoring the fact that drugs of any kind legal or not destroy families like I mentioned and yet you still want to legalize another. You know there is a code that all drug dealers (or atleast the smart ones) will go by " Never use your product!" Cig companies' CEOs don't smoke cause they know there is no point.

 

Also Mary Jane is called a gateway drug and it's very true so making it easier to obtain might lead to harder drugs being legalized. It's a downwards spiral! Upper class people from what I know don't do illegal drugs, it is the lower classes that do. So why would you want to lock them in a cycle of poverty by allowing a drug that increases laziness and lack of productivity. Your not helping people by allowing them to use a drug cause their reasons are stupid and ignorant.

Again I must ask why would you want to promote laziness and throw away morality for a few dollars? Why not just get everyone a job and teach people to work hard to get ahead? Everyone wins that way! Also your ignoring the fact that studies show that it is addicting! Talk to any X hippy they will tell you about how it is hard to quit casue you start to dream about it and crave it for months on end. You claim it's not addictive but you have no proof to back up your claim while I have already posted mine.

 

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Is marijuana use addictive?

Long-term marijuana use can lead to addiction for some people; that is, they use the drug compulsively even though it often interferes with family, school, work, and recreational activities. According to the 2001 National Household Survey on Drug Abuse, an estimated 5.6 million Americans age 12 or older reported problems with illicit drug use in the past year. Of these, 3.6 million met diagnostic criteria for dependence on an illicit drug. More than 2 million met diagnostic criteria for dependence on marijuana/hashish. In 1999, more than 220,000 people entering drug abuse treatment programs reported that marijuana was their primary drug of abuse.

Along with craving, withdrawal symptoms can make it hard for long-term marijuana smokers to stop using the drug. People trying to quit report irritability, difficulty sleeping, and anxiety. They also display increased aggression on psychological tests, peaking approximately 1 week after they last used the drug.

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-- Edited by Bonemail-(Christophe K) at 08:10, 2009-03-01

-- Edited by Bonemail-(Christophe K) at 08:15, 2009-03-01

-- Edited by MrsCavalluzzi at 14:38, 2009-03-01

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I agree with Charlie, that Marijuana is not addictive. People with addictive personalities make it so. I know people who smoke and clearly aren't addicted. What chemical in MJ makes it addictive, Chris? ...assuming there even is one.


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If people stoppped smoking marijuana then wouldn't both problems go away?

Yes of course I would love for everyone to stop abusing substances but that is an unreachable utopian ideal that will never be achieved. If we look at it from a practical point of view, then legalizing it would take power away from criminals.

Also, the main reason it's a gateway drug is that to purchase marijuana one would have to be in contact with a drug dealer who usually deal other drugs besides marijuana. This would expose people to a criminal element which would not be present if an adult could buy it at a local convience shop.

It's very hard to cite studies on marijuana because there has been very little research done on the long term effects of marijuana.

I also like how you're ignoring the fact that drugs of any kind legal or not destroy families like I mentioned and yet you still want to legalize another.

I ignored it because it's a very sensitive issue and hard to talk about without sounding rude. Substance abuse is very sad and it does destroy families. However I feel the blame falls on the individual and not the substance. Many adults responsibly enjoy alcohol and marijuana without it effecting their personal lives. (I'm not mentioning cigarettes because I almost feel like that falls in the realm of crack and heroin in terms of addictiveness and deadliness). It is up to the individual to not abuse a substance and to get help if they do. This is true with anything, not just substances but as I previously mentioned such things as videogames (World of Warcrack anyone?), pornography, etc. (Also if you think I'm saying these things because I don't have first hand experiences with people in my family abusing substances, almost everyone on my dad's side of my family minus my dad are alcoholics, my dad smokes cigarettes and my grandpa and uncle are or have been addicted to crack hmm).

The fact is marijuana is less dangerous when compared to alcohol and the fact we are wasting billions of dollars locking up non violent offenders, crowding our prisons and ruining peoples lives with a criminal record would be extremely comical if it weren't true.

It's nice having a discussion with someone with a differing yet intelligent opinion. I think it would be best if we agree to disagree but anyone feel free to address any of the points I've brought up. I'll leave you with a quote that sums it up:

Even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value, marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.- Willaim F. Buckley Jr.


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